UPDATED: The widely-held, yet absurd notion that the United States of America was never a Christian nation can only be believed if you are (a) ignorant of history, (b) if you are too stupid or too lazy to look, and/or (c) if you’re just an evil jackass. But don’t take my word for it. Let’s look directly to the United States Supreme Court Records.
And Mr. Athiest, stick this in your pipe and smoke it…
Vidal v. Girard’s Executors (1844): The Court produced a ruling which said, “Christianity is not to be maliciously and openly reviled and blasphemed against, to the annoyance of believers or the injury of the public.” The Court’s decision asked the question, “Where can the purest principles of morality be learned so clearly or so perfectly as from the New Testament?”
Holy Trinity v. United States (1892): The Supreme Court cited document after document from American history and concluded, “There is no dissonance in these declarations. There is a universal language pervading them all, having one meaning; they affirm and reaffirm that this is a religious nation.” The ruling states bluntly, “This is a Christian nation.”
United States v. Macintosh (1931): The Supreme Court declared, “We are a Christian people…according to one another the equal right of religious freedom, and acknowledging with the reverence the duty of obedience to God.”
Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black was also a member of the KKK, but the secular left says Christians just bring this up to 'make him look bad'
It was not until 1947 in Everson v. Board of Education, the United States Supreme Court for the first time in history, ruled against Christianity, erecting an imaginary “wall of separation” between church and state. Supreme Court Justice, former member of the Ku Klux Klan and all around Godless Jackass Hugo Black, author of the decision, stated, “We could not approve the slightest breach” of that separation. This astonishingly arrogant 1947 Supreme Court overturned not one Supreme Court ruling, but a minimum of THREE previous rulings…and at least one of which was a UNANIMOUS DECISION (1844).
And the attack on America’s Christian heritage was under way….
Why do you think our Founding Fathers placed ‘freedom of religion’ in the First Amendment?
Judge for yourself…where’s the wall?
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Alexis de Tocqueville
“Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” ~Alexis de Tocqueville (1805-1859)
EXIT QUESTION: Why did no one use this ‘wall argument’ until 1947?
UPDATE (almost immediate)
HITTING A NERVE: The militant Anti-God people are submitting ‘comments’ that are longer than this article itself. Despite the documented evidence, including the above referenced supreme court records, (and we didn’t even touch on the congress of 1782) these nasty secular lefties refuse to acknowledge history—because it doesn’t ‘mix well’ with their Godless agendas… insisting that the Separation of Church & state is the ‘bedrock’of America….and the most LAUGHABLE, is that Christians only bring up the KKK to make Supreme Court Justice Black ‘look bad’. What the heck?
There can be no doubt that Jefferson did INDEED describe the First Amendment as a wall… but Jefferson’s Wall was to protect Religion from ANY government interference….NOT vice versa. But we’ll cover that next time.
NOW To you ‘anti-God KKK defenders’—- If you think I am going to provide you with a stage to spew your dangerous nonsense, you are wrong about that too. Just because you’ve been louder—does not make you right. And some of us are sick of your crap…and we’re not taking it anymore. And I recommend you get out of my face. Go write your own blog.
Ever hear of John Locke?
Actually only remotely, and I had to look him up to refresh my memory (duh). Locke (1632 – 1704) a brilliant thinker, was admired by and influenced several of our founding fathers opinions regarding the proper roles of government.
But honestly, my studies have been limited to POST 1750s. Thanks for the note.
Renowned historian David Barton of Wallbuilders said that the whole “establishment of religion” argument in the First Amendment centers on the idea that the founders did not want a particular denomination chosen as the national religion, ie. Catholic, Methodist, Baptist, Anglican, etc.
When you look at the various state constitutions you will see direct reference to “God” or “Almighty God” in the preambles of most of these documents.
Great job here my friend.
Would that be the same david barton who has admitted to lying ? The same one who is a theologian and NOT an historian. The same david barton that any high school freshman can prove wrong with 15 minutes of research.
And each of the state constitutions that have tried to enforce that language has lost to the supreme court.
The WALL did not start in 1847.. it started with Jefferson’s letter to the baptists.
Perhaps you all could try RIF Reading is Fundamental instead of listening to lies retold.
You must be thinking of someone in the Obama regime. It’s a different David Barton. Jay Carney says there’s at least 3 of them out there!
Us Citizen…. you Anti-God people build your “wall” case NOT around the constitution… [oops because its not there] but by taking ONE PHRASE from Jefferson’s Danbury Baptist letter OUT OF CONTEXT.
Have you ever actually read Jefferson’s Danbury Baptist letter? Or are you just parroting the jawbone of another atheist jackass? [I think we know the answer to that]
Jefferson’s COMPLETE sentence:
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Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.”
There can be no doubt that Jefferson did INDEED describe the First Amendment as a wall… but Jefferson’s Wall was to protect Religion from ANY government interference….NOT vice versa—-as you and your ilk claim.
To believe your nonsense… we must also believe that the Founding Fathers were not articulate enough to say what they really meant in the first place.
Then we must FURTHER BELIEVE…that since the founding fathers ‘didn’t know’ that ‘they didn’t know’ —- this GROSS error by the founding fathers was even not corrected for another 25 years… And this ‘constitutional correction” required only ONE of the THIRTY-NINE signers of the Constitution.
There is SO, so much more, and I will be documenting the entire case right here soon, using things called DOCUMENTABLE HISTORICAL FACTS.
You are welcome to come back.
I had no idea, THANK YOU! You have fired me up.
Why is this not common knowledge? After double-checking your Supreme Court Case references, I’m furious that no history class I ever took touches this monumental aspect of our history.
This goes to the very heart of who and what we are.
And you know, it’s always bothered me how these ‘proponents of this constitutional wall of separation’ reference Thomas Jefferson’s Letter to the Danbury Baptists which was written in 1802 …some TWENTY FIVE YEARS AFTER the constitution.
In fact, if you read Jefferson’s letter in its proper context, it’s not ambiguous at all. (here it is)
“I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.”
The WALL as Jefferson described was to protect religion FROM Government interference of ANY kind. Religious affairs were OFF LIMITS–no exceptions. This means Government cannot ban, limit, encourage, or dictate ANY conditions of religious matters under any circumstances.
And I LOVE your question… “Why do you think our Founding Fathers placed ‘freedom of religion’ in the First Amendment?” The only thing I would add is “Why is it in the FIRST SENTENCE of The First Amendment?”
Where are our churches? Why aren’t they standing up?
Awesome awesome points Lash, I actually took the liberty to BOLD where you state, “The WALL as Jefferson described was to protect religion FROM Government interference of ANY kind.”
And you are exactly right when you say it is not ambiguous in any way.
Great job! I posted a link here at The Last Refuge (http://theconservativetreehouse.com/).
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“PESKY, MISUNDERSTOOD’ SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE””
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Since it is apparently germane to his legal decisions that Hugo Black was a KKK member, I’d like to point out that the first two rulings mentioned, in 1844 and 1892, came under Chief Justices Taney and Fuller, respectively. These are the guys who gave us Scott v Sandford (which expanded slavery, allowing slave-owners to take slaves into free states) and Plessy v Ferguson (which legalized “separate but equal”). It’s hard to take seriously statements on the importance of morality and religion from people who fought for slavery and segregation. I dare say those two rulings did far more harm to African-Americans, and to the country, than Black’s inexcusable KKK membership.
Well, if I’m not mistaken we’ve just had Mr. Condescension enter the house… welcome.
Well, if you don’t believe that by the 20th Century— a continued belief & association in the KKK was not a character flaw— Does that mean its still okay today? Or at what point did it actually become ‘a resume ‘no-no’ — if not by 1947?
But hey, lets’ pretend instead of a KKK member, Hugo was a church deacon…. That does not remotely change the fact— that the entire case was built on the nonsensical notion that the founding fathers were not intelligent enough to articulate what they really meant to say… and that they accidentally put the Freedom of Religion clause in the FIRST SENTENCE of the First amendment—even above freedom of Speech.
OH yes, and lets ignore that little Church of England Bru-ha-ha thingy.
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Thomas Jefferson’s Letter to the Danbury Baptists will be our topic soon. So wear your ‘learning Cap”
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Yep, the SCOTUS can and has reversed rulings.
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